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1 Re: LE STUDIP PERSON! was: LE HUNS OR LE MONGOLS ? (mind)  1 sor     (cikkei)
2 Who is a MAGYAR? (mind)  2 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Trianon, mint a =?iso-8859-1?Q?n=E9pakarat_teljes=E (mind)  24 sor     (cikkei)
4 levelezunk, levelezunk... (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Who is this Ruman? (mind)  1 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Reaching the limits? (mind)  57 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Kommunista Kina vasarolt amerikai elnokot (mind)  15 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: LE STUDIP PERSON! was: LE HUNS OR LE MONGOLS ? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

MONGOIC TOLK?
+ - Who is a MAGYAR? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

A Magyar is non EUROPEAN.
A Slav is an EUROPEAN.
+ - Re: Trianon, mint a =?iso-8859-1?Q?n=E9pakarat_teljes=E (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On 23 Mar 1997 04:13:40 GMT, Horvath Attila > wrote:
>
>Alkalmasak-e az ilyen "csúsztatások" arra, hogy egy néppel szemben
>előítéleteket tápláljanak?
>
>Valóban nacionalista-e az a kormány, amelyik saját országa
>infrastruktúráját fejleszti?
>
>A csallóközieket, a vajdaságiakat, az erdélyieket, stb. is azért csatolták
>oda, ahova kerültek, mert ez volt a nép kívánsága?
>
>Trianon tényleg a népakaratot juttatta érvényre?

Gondolom mindenki sejti, hogy ezek koltoi kerdesek, s az adott valaszban
is tobbnyire egyetertunk.  Ezek pedig: Igen, nem, nem, nem.

Egyebkent nem veletlen, hogy pont azok az elszakitasra itelt teruletek
maradtak vegulis velunk, ahol a "rongyosok" kikenyszeritettek a
nepszavazast.  Eleg baj, hogy az a par szaz rongyos egyetemista, s mas
szegenylegeny, akik ezert onkentesen eletuket aldoztak, vagy
kockaztattak, maig sem kaptak erdemuknek megfelelo elismerest a
hivatalos magyar kormanyoktol.

Pannon J.
+ - levelezunk, levelezunk... (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Az rt765 megint kuldott egy par pimaszkodo uzenetet.  Erre a 3/17/97, GURU,
2430 soros uzenetenek, 15 masolatat kuldtem neki.  
Istvan
+ - Re: Who is this Ruman? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Well, I remain a ROMAN.
+ - Re: Reaching the limits? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Wally Keeler wrote:

 
> Csigany aka Rom.
> I do not speak this language. You are welcome to use Hungarian, English or 
Swedish and I do understand some Russain too.

> How 'bout in the underground at the train station in Budapest.
> Yeah, that could be the reason why they don't have a university.

And once more: approx. 90-95% Hungarians and 5-10% other nations, not only 
Rom, but Germans, Romanians and many more other nations, live in Hungary at 
this time. So the actual procetage is lower than 5-10% for only Gypsies.
 
> Well, Native Canadians constitute the same percentage and there is no
> university for them, however there has been a considerable increase in
> aboriginal studies and courses. 

I thought aboriginies live in Australia. But of course I've never been to 
Canada.

> Are there any
> Romani studies or courses offered in Hungarian universities?

I don't know of any, but perhaps when the need of comes up, this could 
change.

> : Aiming for a university? I don't think so.
> : Apropo, why haven't we heard about a gypsy university in Romania? There
> : supposed to be many more of this nation over there.
> : EK
> 
> There are much more in Romania. They are busy protecting their homes from
> immolation. And in the Czech & Slovak Republics, they are forming posses
> to protect themselves from murderous skinheads.

I do feel sorry for them, but if we look at some African countries or as a 
matter of fact Albania, I have more compassion for those people. I'm kind of 
powerless to change their sitution. What are you doing for the well-being of 
those Gypsies in Romania, Czech, Slovak Republics? You see, it's much easier 
to critisize than to do something.
 
> If you want to know where some Roma are in Hungary, I'd advise you buy
> yourself a ticket on the Fekete Vonat leaving Budapest Friday evening --
> follow the tamborine man. Sometime during the last half of the 1980's the
> city council of Gyor (if memory serves me right) had developed a plan to
> move all the Rom out of Gyor and place them in an out-of-the-way suburb, a
> sort of Hungarian lite-version of Ceausescu's systemization plan.

That's not the way I remeber it, but of course I haven't been to Romania when 
it happened, so I received my information from the massmedia. In Romania 
Ceausescu tried to spread the Hungarian community by making them move. This 
case in Györ shows a different direction (if it is true at all), to have the 
community to move together.

What makes you so interested in this matter? 
EK
+ - Re: Kommunista Kina vasarolt amerikai elnokot (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:02:23 -0500, 
Gabor Barsai > wrote:
>
>Nem, sorry ha igy olvasod. Csak iroi multad nem ezt sugallta nekem, hogy
>ilyeneket irsz.

Azert nem kene, hogy a revans vagya annyira elragadjon, hogy meg
ertelmetlen szovegek irasat is kiegyenlitesnek tekints, Gabor. ;-) 

-- 
Pannon J.
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