You are cordially invited to join us in a celebration of Hungary's 1100
year anniversary, and 50th anniversary of the Hungarian Freedom Fight...

Where: State of Illinois Building in Chicago
When: Today, Saturday June 15th 4:00PM
Who:Sponsored by AAYH (American Ass'n. of Young Hungarians)
How: Chicago's downtown area is easily accessible by car, and public
transportation. Parking is also available nearby.

Food and refreshments will also be available. There will be exhibits by
Hungarian Social Groups and Businesses.

So please come join us in this truly "Once in a Lifetime" event....

I will be leading a group of 16 U.S. students in Budapest this fall. We 
do a survival Hungarian course for the students. Our previous instructor 
has moved to Sweden.

 I'm looking for a person with some experience who also speaks English, 
and would be available for the week of 2-6 September for an intensive 
course (perhaps 2 1/2 hour daily sessions for two groups), and then 
meeting perhaps a week with each group until December.

  Any ideas? 

     Randy Bytwerk )

In article >, Nagy Peter > wrote:
>
>Edes draga Odor ur!  Maga Szaszvari Petert patkanynak nevezi, kijelenti
>hogy ha az szemelyesen jelen lenne, akkor ot lekopne, "OK"-nak
>tartana ha ot valaki mas is lekopne, seggberugna, "etc", majd koszos,
>alavalo feregnek hivja es kijelenti, hogy meg el sem taposna hogy nehogy
>beszennyezze vele a cipojet.  Mahlzeit.  Vegul kozli hogy mindezt nem
>haragbol irja, hanem "ezek hideg fejjel levont konkluziok".

Ja, az ugy kezdodott, hogy Tibor visszautott.

>En a multkoriban P.J.-t hasonlo kifakadasat vergozosnek neveztem; de
>uram, Pannon magahoz kepest egy szelid szuzlany, akivel udito az
>eszmecsere.  Maga nem "markans jobbkozep", hanem "hiszterikus
>szelsojobb".

Hasonlo kifakadasert?  En nem emlekszem, hogy bilincset, vagy kotelet
emlegettem volna (bar lehet, hogy gondoltam ra ;-).
Mintha csak artalmatlanitasrol irtam volna.  Lelked rajta, ha ezt kotelnek
es bilincsnek vetted.

Pannon J.

MEgorov > wrote:
>In U.S.of A you cannot find more than 100,000 Hungarians(MONGOLS),the rest
>to probably 300,000 are inocent hard working jews,slavs,germans,etc.
>(A Jew who is still alive)

Does this smell like yet another provocation or what?

Joe Pannon

Would any one in this group have any knowledge of albums recorded by a
wonderful Hungarian singer by the name of Marta Sebestyen?

I first heard her singing in 1987 on a trip to Hungary where I first
heard the rock opera, Istvan ,  A Kiraly.  On the album, it was her
voice used for the part of Reka, Kopany's daughter while in the stage
production, I believe the part was sung by Kovacs Ottilia. 

Then a couple of months ago, at a local restaurant where I was doing
some computer work, I heard some background music which sounded
hautingly familiar.  After asking the manager, I found that the group
was called "Deep Forest" , a couple of French lads, and the album was
called "La Boheme".  I finally found the album and gave it a good
listen at home. Reading the liner notes, I discovered that the female
singer was Marta.  

I checked the liner notes for Istvan, A Kiraly  and found that indeed
she was the same person.

Would anyone have any knowledge of any other albums she may have
recorded and where one might get a hold of them?  

Please E-mail me at  or post here. I lurk all the
time and very occasionally put in my 2 cents worth:-)))

Thanks all. 

Frank

#In article >,  
#says...
#>
#>In case you missed it, OMRI wrote as follows:
#>
#>SLOVAK MINORITIES CRITICIZE CABINET'S POLICIES. Leaders of Slovakia's
#>Ruthenian, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Czech, and Bulgarian organizations on
#>10 June expressed disagreement with the government's minority policies,
#>Praca reported. 

	i think that the slovak minority policy is inefficient: 
	it is expensive, and instead of gratitude it generates
	scornful remarks, like those contained in this omri news.

	the use of a minority language is a hobby, and must be treated
	as such.   it is treated in this manner everywhere in europe.
	moreover, practically nowhere, national minorities are paid
	for being minorities.   in western europe, only sweden has
	a program whereby so called "homeland languages" are taught
	to those children whose parents might like to return to their
	country of origin.   moreover, a national minority in sweden
	can get financial assistance for its activities.   this 
	assistance, however, is provided in a more efficient manner
	than what we see in slovakia.   the present slovak ssytem is
	a carry-over from the socialist system, when money was given away
	to someone, who wanted to speak hungarian (as one example).
	in sweden, this would be a kind of hobby.   it means that any
	organisation may ask for a financial assistance, and obtain it,
	provided it fulfills certain requirements: the number of         
   	participants, competent activity management, social usefulness 
	of the project, etc.   this may be checked upon by the issuing
	authority.   the great advantage i see in the swedish system
	is, that it is just.   it gives the same opportunity to native
	swedes as it gives to those born in assyria, kurdistan, or
	iceland.   of course, there is no question of ethnical language
	tuition at the expense of the official language.   just the
	contrary.   excellent knowledge of swedish is a precondition
	for getting any employment, or other position in the society.
	and that is also correct.   the world, at least on our continent,
	does not consist of some undefined hybrids, but of peoples.

	in slovakia, the situation is entirely different   a large number
	of mainly hungarian professional officials have been parasiting
	on automatic and ever increasing grants.   what they give back
	to slovakia is notorious: slanders and badmouthing.   slovaks
	are excluded from this system, although they carry the brunt of
	the taxation.   although slovakia can be proud of her liberal
	attitude to her enemies, it is silly not to show who is in
 	charge.  the sooner it happens, the better.   slovakia, as a 
	small country, cannot forever have her reputation tarnished by
	arrogant nincompoops (this reflects on the volume of trade and
	thus national income), and at the same time be ever more 
	generous.  besides, for slovakia the foremost priority is to take
	care of, and integrate into the mainstream of society those
	hungarians who call themselves romas.   when i come to slovakia,
	and decide to form a swedish speaking, (or whatever speaking)
	minority, i would not like anybody to control me.   but i do
	not see a reason for being paid for this.

#of minority languages and on
#>minority cultural organizations. -- Sharon Fisher
#>

Igor GAZDIK wrote:
> 
> #In article >, 
> #says...
> #>
> #>In case you missed it, OMRI wrote as follows:
> #>
> #>SLOVAK MINORITIES CRITICIZE CABINET'S POLICIES. Leaders of Slovakia's
> #>Ruthenian, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Czech, and Bulgarian organizations on
> #>10 June expressed disagreement with the government's minority policies,
> #>Praca reported.
> 
>         i think that the slovak minority policy is inefficient:
>         it is expensive, and instead of gratitude it generates
>         scornful remarks, like those contained in this omri news.

So, summa summarum, instead of this being their right, these folks owe
a considerable amount of gratitude to the Slovak government for... for...
for... letting them alive, not exterminating them ? Like in Bosnia ? 
Beurk... 

For those who still don't know who is Mr. Gazdik, an illustruous Slovak, 
here it is in his entire splendeur...
 

>         the use of a minority language is a hobby, and must be treated
>         as such.   it is treated in this manner everywhere in europe.

Yes, like speaking Japanese or Chinese, speaking Magyar is a hobby in 
Slovakia. Like making airplane models or playing chess. It's original.
It comes from Mr. Gazdik.


>         moreover, practically nowhere, national minorities are paid
>         for being minorities.   in western europe, only sweden has

In Switzerland, for example, noone "is paid for being a minority", to 
use the beautiful Mr. Gazdik's expression, but there are substantial 
allocations from the federal budget to help keeping alive the Svizra
Rumantscha, a language that's slowly dying under the burden of Zuerituetch.
Similar allocations are being given in favour of Suisse Romande (Welsch),
and Ticinese italophones.

( ... )

>         in slovakia, the situation is entirely different   a large number
>         of mainly hungarian professional officials have been parasiting
>         on automatic and ever increasing grants.   what they give back
>         to slovakia is notorious: slanders and badmouthing.   slovaks

Again, genuine Mr. Gazdik. Indeed, they have to be grateful for still being
well and alive, as not all Slovakia citizen can say the same... Remember 
Robert Remias.

>         ....   slovaks
>         are excluded from this system, although they carry the brunt of
>         the taxation.   

This is not true. Even from the tremendously shrinking national minority
budget, the infamous Slovenska Republika daily, considered to be The 
Private Newspaper of the Ruling Party (run for taxpayer's money, of 
course), is getting a substantial portion for publishing... Minority
supplements ! Top bad taste.

>                 ...    although slovakia can be proud of her liberal
>         attitude to her enemies, it is silly not to show who is in
>         charge.  the sooner it happens, the better.   slovakia, as a

Wow! And there are some people who thought that the WW II is over...
So 10 % of Slovakia's citizen are enemies because they are Magyars.
In the same logics, over 60 % of the country population are enemies 
because they did not vote for the Very Mighty ! And they did not want 
the split of Czechoslovakia at all !

>         charge.  the sooner it happens, the better.   slovakia, as a
>         small country, cannot forever have her reputation tarnished by
>         arrogant nincompoops (this reflects on the volume of trade and
>         thus national income), and at the same time be ever more
>         generous.  besides, for slovakia the foremost priority is to take
>         care of, and integrate into the mainstream of society those
>         hungarians who call themselves romas.   when i come to slovakia,
>         and decide to form a swedish speaking, (or whatever speaking)
>         minority, i would not like anybody to control me.   but i do
>         not see a reason for being paid for this.

The above came from Mr. Gazdik's keyboard. It's his views. In the Free 
World, he is entitled to his views, be they openly fascist.

But, please remember not all Slovaks are fascists.

Roman Kanala

Can anybody give me some interesting internet-adresses where you can get
information (in English, German, or French) about the evolution of the
hungarian agriculture and agricultural policy after 1988.

In article >,  
says...
>
>In article >,
>Laszlo Balogh > wrote:
>|  (MEgorov) wrote:
>| >
>| >CONTRY: Hungary
>| >CULTURE:Non  European
>| >RACE:      Non  European ( Mongolic Turk)
>| >RELIGION: (Inpoused) Cristian
>| >HISTORY: Play the role of mercenarys (Very relible for Austrans)
>| >ECONOMY: Dependening on Austria,GERMANY
>| >POLACY:  Commanded by  AUSTRO-GERMANS
>| >FUTURE:   Unknown
>| 
>| DID YOU FINISH HIGH SCHOOL: no
>| ARE YOU AN IDIOT: yes
>| DO YOU EVER FEEL YOU ARE AN ILLEGITIMATE CHILD: yes
>| DO YOU FEEL MAGNETISM TOWARD YOUR OWN SEX: yes
>| DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET PREGNANT BY A MALE: yes
>| ARE YOU A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND: yes
>| ARE YOU FROM A COUNTRY THAT IS INFERIOR: yes
>| DID YOUR MAMA SLEEP WITH THE VILLAGE IDIOT: yes
>| 
>| DIAGNOSIS:  YOU ARE A STUPID BASTARD
>
>Hey guys... we don't have to sink to his level... 
>He is an idiot, but why bring this stupid racist, homophobic
>etc stuff into the conversation?
>Istvan
>
>I think this guy just wanted to see what reaction he would get.  What 
he wrote is so absurd - and he isn't even able to write English properly. 
 I agree with Istvan - the best thing is to ignore him because all he 
wants is attention.
Agnes

On 15 Jun 1996 18:09:46 GMT,  (Laszlo Horvath)
wrote:

>Magyar filmek vannak a KNA (B.C.), (ch5 in Vancouver) csatornan, szombat 
>este. 5 hetig tart, ez a masodik het.


Here in Calgary, it's next to impossible to get any Hungarian films.
Yes we have a weekly half hour of Hungarian programing on the local
cable "Community" channel, but it is mostly news, read in hungarian,
with the occasional, poor quality cartoon or travelogue thrown in. 
I envy you folks in Vancouver.  

Frank

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     Nepdalkorusok
    -Alapfoku citeraoktatas
     Unnepkorhoz kotott szokasdallamok
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