Hello 

i´m lokink for a girl from hungary.



If sombody can help mi.



regards

steven from Switzerland

In article >, Karl Pollak > wrote:
>HipCat > wrote:
>
>>1.  The Father of US Aerospace is Todor (Theodore) von Karman who was
>>born in Budapest and emigrated to the US.  
>
>Absolutely. A typical Hungarian name.  Probably a second cousin to St.
>Stephen.

Hey, if Linder can be Slovak, why not Karman a Hungarian?  BTW, that
"von" was only added to his name in the US, you can guess why.  Same
goes for John von Neumann.

>>3.   Szilard (and Wigner and Teller, also Hungarians) 
>
>So far, the only thing you have managed to demonstrate is that the
>brainiest "Hungarians" have found it impossible to live in their
>native country and moved someplace else to achieve their greatness.

As the saying goes: nobody can be a prophet in his own country.  This
seems to be true even for Jews, who are far more successful
outside of Israel than inside.  And for some reason, the Jews of Hungary
were especially successful. 
>
>Because some of us insist on dividing people into Hungarians,
>Roumanians, Americans and anything else and forgetting to look at them
>as PEOPLE.

Well, then why have international sport competitions at all?  Why have
Olympics?  There is nothing wrong with FRIENDLY competitions.

BTW, Karl, whatever happened to the SZASZ restaurant on Granville at
12th?  When did it close?  

Joe

Wally Keeler > wrote:
>>>>>>>I prefer to keep responsibilities to a minimum.
"
Joe Pannon asked:
>>>>>>But isn't that the indication of an irresponsible person? ;-)
>>>>>>Joe

Bird Jaguar claered up the confusion:
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope. 'Tis an indication of a hypocrite.
>>>>>Gabor

I added:
>>>> A label he used for others with so much enthusiasm! But
what do you expect from a big slab of self proclaimed beef?
>>>> GK

Almost all Wally could come up with:
>>>
>>> .................. the only appropoetic   <-(Note: no such word)
>>>response that could be offered: OINK! OINK!

I sadly reported:
>> Yup, that's about your level, all right.
>

Wally attempted to answer but got lost in the barnyard and resolved to name 
calling:
>Another comment with as much wit and imaginative substance as a dollop of
>shaving cream. >Yup, that's about your level, all right.< Jeez, can't you
>do a better come-back than that? God you really are KoVACUOUS aren't you?
>

Nope.
You just don't deserve more this time. Do you think that 'OINK' was funny or
creative?
You probably do. Practise you spelling. FYI, stating a fact does not
require imagination. Knowledge is quite sufficient.
GK

Karl Pollak wrote:
> 
> HipCat > wrote:
> 
> >Tony, Tony!
> 
> >1.  The Father of US Aerospace is Todor (Theodore) von Karman who was
> >born in Budapest and emigrated to the US.
> 
> Absolutely. A typical Hungarian name.  Probably a second cousin to St.
> Stephen.
> 
> >2.  Pulitzer was born in Hungary.
> 
> >3.   Szilard (and Wigner and Teller, also Hungarians)
> 
> So far, the only thing you have managed to demonstrate is that the
> brainiest "Hungarians" have found it impossible to live in their
> native country and moved someplace else to achieve their greatness.
> 
> If I were a Hungarian Hurrah-Patriot, I don't think I would boast
> about it too much.
> >"Why Can't We All Just Get Along?"
> >Rodney King, now there's a role model!
> 
> Because some of us insist on dividing people into Hungarians,
> Roumanians, Americans and anything else and forgetting to look at them
> as PEOPLE.
> 
> >And I am NOT your Fellow.
> 
> Nor, mine, I assure you.
> Karl Pollak
> Richmond, British Columbia
> Visit  http://www.frasevalley.com/routes

Karl Pollak -
Another "brilliant" guy who says a lot with nothing to say.  If you
would know anything about history and the suffering some people endured
or tried to escape from, you wouldn't sound so dumb and question why
there are so many Hungarians abroad.  Did you ever hear of Nazis and
Communists? And should you ever visit Hungary or do any research into
the subject, you'll find that there are plenty of "brainy" Hungarians
still in Hungary trying to make that country work. But I guess if you
live in a cushy, wealthy and free environment like British Columbia,
well I guess poverty, drastic inflation, double digit unemployment, is
just a mirage, far removed.  You have plenty of time to post a lot of
nothing and then go smell the flowers. 

I should not be proud of Hungarian contributions just because the
Hungarians I mentioned lived outside of Hungary? You so FUNNY! Duh!

Also, with Pollak as your last name, you should have appreciated my
postings because I was repyling to a man who called all East Europeans
"fools."  I was defending Eastern Europeans.  But I guess you didn't
notice.

And who was it that insisteed on dividing us into Hungarians, Romanians,
Americans, etc.?  I didn't.  But perhaps your bifocals need a new
prescription.

Why is it that as soon as someone says anything about the contributions
Hungarians have made, he receives vitriolc responses that have nothing
to do with the initial subject?  Could you be jealous? And judging from
your numerous other postings, I guess you have too much time on your
hands and too little in your skull.
-- 
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iFodor wrote:
> 
> Forwarded message:
> From:          "Onodi Bertalan " <ORION/BERT>
> To:            #kutato
> Date:          Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:19 CAT
> Subject:       Szerzodes
> Reply-to:      bert1
> 
> Sziasztok !
> 
> Nem tudom ki olvassa el ezt. Nem tudom kit erdekel. Nem tudom ki latta
> hallotta azt az elborzaszto delutant a minap, amikor a parlamentben
> megalaztak es helybenhagytak a romaniaban elo magyarokat.
> Felhaborito ez a flegma hangvetel es a tortenelem semmibevetele, ahogy ez
> a kormany viseltetik veluk. A nemzetunk egyhatodat kuldik a semmibe
> eppen. Akkor, amikor minden, a masodik vilaghaborut koveto fontosabb
> szerzodest felrugjak, akkor amikor a ket nemetorszag egyesul, a csehek es
> szlovakok szetvalnak, akkor, mikor az ukranok elvalnak az oroszoktol,
> akkor mikor lehetoseg volna vegre arra, hogy megint hozzank tartozzanak a
> mieink, akkor arra bolint a magyar nep, hogy ketmillio embert otthagyjunk sze
p
> csondeben elfogyni ???
> 
> Az ember tur es nyel. Persze felvetodik az otlet hogy majd az EU-ba
> belepunk es az EU alapelvek szerint ugyis mindegy ki hol lakik, hiszen
> szabadok a hatarok. Csakhogy tudjatok: a mult evi EU szemeszteren egy
> EU-s szakerto nyilatkozta, hogy mig Magyarorszagnak 5-8 even belul
> realis eselye van az EU-ba csatlakozasra, addig Romania valamint a
> balkan (igy mondta) ugy 10-15 ev mulva lesz esedekes. Ez azt jelenti,
> hogy minimum 10 evig magukra lesznek hagyva es torvenyesen eliminalva
> az ott levo magyarok......
> 
> Miert irtam en ezt ide ????---Kerdezheti barki
> Kis pontok vagyunk, es kis buta doktoranduszok. Es amugy is mindegy,
> hiszen azt csinalnak amit akarnak a fejunk felett....
> 
> Kis pont vagyok. igen, kis pont. A fenebe is...
> Dehat valamit tenni kene... A tuntetesre persze hogy elmegy az ember.
> De nem kene tiltakoznunk, mint "a" fiatal ertelmiseg ?
> Javaslom azt, hogy irjunk egy tiltakozo iratot, es irhassa ala mindenki.
> Elektronikus uton, vagy a PhD irodaban egy ivre, es kuldjuk el
> ujsagoknak, kuldjuk el a kormanynak, es tudassuk ahol csak lehet -ha van
> - az ellenvelemenyunket !!!
> 
> Jovo hetfon kiteszek egy tiltakozo iratot a PhD tanulmanyiba, valamint
> elkuldok ennek a kis tarsasagnak egy e-mailt, ami ugyanezen tiltakozast
> tartalmazza. Kerlek, aki olvassa kuldje el barmilyen ismerosehez azt,
> valamint ezen levelet.
> 
> Semmmilyen part vagy egyeb szervezeti erdek ne kapcsolodjon ehhez a
> tiltakozashoz es ne kapcsoljuk mi sem ilyen dolgokhoz.
> A becsuletes, epp elme tiltakozik ez ellen a felhaborito
> szerzodes ellen, es semmi mas.
> Barki csatlakozhat ehhez a tiltakozashoz.
> Az elektrtonikusan alairt leveleket a  -ra kuldjetek vissza.
> 
> Az osszegyujtott anyagot tobb napilapnak es a kormanynak is elkuldom.
> Tegyuk meg a tolunk telhetot... tiltakozzunk !!!!!
> 
> sziasztok: bert
> 
> ps; Az ido surget...hetfoig varom a megjegyzeseiteket. es gondoljatok
> vegig...
> 
> *******************************************************
> * Bertalan Onodi, PhD student                         *
> * snailmail: Bp. 1039. Hadrianusz u.7. VII.70 Hungary *
> * e-mail: ,         *
> * www:http://hubi.abc.hu/~bert                        *
> *******************************************************



Just a thought. If the MSNP is to remain in power then it had to keep 
those iredentist millions out of the country. In two generations they be 
the best Romanians the world had known. Now they finally elevated from 
collective tolerates to real individual, to human beings. 

EVERY ONE FOR HIMSELF.


A. Albu

Hello Mindenkinek!
Masodallast keresek budapesti Internet cafe-ban.
Ajanlatokat a  vagy a 
cimre kerem.
Tisztelettel Nemeth Zoltan

And what does it mean in English, if anything?

Joe wrote:
> 
> I don't know whether this is the best place to post this request, but here
> goes anyway.  If there is a better group to post to, please let me know.
> 
> I am interested in a U.S. source to purchase hungarian music, by mail .
> What I am seeking is older hungarian music, particularly instrumentals.
> When I lived in Connecticut many years ago, this music was featured on one
> of the Fairfield stations on Sunday morning.  Being second generation
> american and far from areas with significant hungarian-american
> populations, I do not know where to find this type music.  Any help in this
> area would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
>         Josef V. Ugro Jr.
Dear Josef!

There are many recordings available at music stores, such as Tower, Sam
Goody, etc.  Many new groups play traditional Hungarian FOLK music as
opposed to Gypsy music.  I like both but there is a difference.  One
group in particular has won truly international acclaim with many sold
out concerts in the US.  That group is Muzsikas.  Their lead singer,
Marta Sebestyen is PHENOMENAL.  They play traditional and ancient
Hungarian tunes with traditional instruments from Transylvania and other
parts of Hungary.  Check it out.  My favorite album of theirs - I don't
remember the name - has them walking in a field with Marta in front on a
light blue sky.  Enjoy!
-- 
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In article >, iFodor  > wrote:
>     Pannon Jozsefenek szerintem nincs igaza: ez nem erzes dolga, konkret 
>     tiszteletremelto kezdemenyezesrol van szo, es az ember vagy tamogatja, 
>     vagy nem, fuggetlenul az erzeseitol ha konstruktivak akarunk lenni. 
>     Ha csak a hazai allapotokrol fogunk mindig sirankozni, az nem vezet 
>     sehova. Olbe tett kezzel varjuk mikor lesz okosabb a nep? Nem, tenni 
>     is kell valamit ezert! Es a fiatal Onodi Bert kezdemenyezese szerintem 
>     ezt szolglja. fodor istvan

Nezd, azt nem irtam, hogy nem adnam a nevem a Berci altal javasolt
akciohoz, csak azt, hogy szerintem remenytelen a dolog.  
Ne altassuk magunkat azzal, hogy par tucat internetes ertelmisegi el
tudna olyan valamit erni, amit sem a parlamenti ellenzek, sem a
magyar-magyar talalkozok nem tudtak elerni.  Nem csak azert, mert az
atlag otthoni ugysem fog hallani a mi tiltakozasunkrol, hanem azert is,
mert nem is erdeklik oket az erdelyi magyarok, akiket eloszeretettel
romanoknak neveznek, s rosszindulattal vannak irantuk, ha latjak, hogy
azok a menekultek MO-on rovid ido alatt valamire is viszik.  Ezt sajnos
szemelyesen kellett tapasztalnom otthoni latogatasaimkor.
Szerintem Horn & Co. nagyon is tisztaban van valasztoik ezen gyalazatos
nemzettudataval, s ezert is jelenthette ki Horn pokhendien a minap a
parlament ezzel kapcsolatos ulese utan: "Semmit nem hallottam, ami az
visszatartana az alapszerzodes alairasatol" (emlekezetbol ideztem).

Pannon J.

The name is most probably Polish since Hungarian does not use this sort
of spelling.  However, that does not mean that the bearer of this name
was not of Hungarian background.  Galicia, which is now part of southern
Poland, was taken away from Hungary in 1920 with the Treaty of Trianon.
Take a look at where Strzyz is on the map. I know this may complicate
things for you, but good luck.

HipCat
-- 
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1 napon belüli tartalomjegyzékei

better use 

<http://www.friends-partners.org/oldfriends/news/newsgr.list.html>;

select  

soc.culture.magyar 


egy masodpercen beluli

In article >,
willy > wrote:
>In article >,
 says...
>>In article >,  >
>wrote:
>>>Wally Keeler > wrote:
>>>>No, it is saying, "I am reticent to see it expand, because it means an
>>>>enlarged responsibility. I prefer to keep responsibilities to a minimum."
>>>>
>>>But isn't that the indication of an irresponsible person? ;-)
>>>Joe
>>
>>Nope. 'Tis an indication of a hypocrite.
>>Gabor
>
>Hey Joe, Aren't we all impressed with the sharpe-edged wit of Mr
>Dung-Tongue, formerly known as Mr Bland Gland, you know, Bore-to-the-Core
>Gabor.

Why, Wishy-washy Willy-wally, I'm flattered. You call me "the friendly vital 
organ" once again. I guess, my superior intellect just forces you to such a low
level of self-confidence. Of course, this must come naturally to a sexist, 
hypocrite pseudo-poet, like vous. Ya know, my $19.95 (as vous like to state it)
 
OSU education must be worth mucho more than any education vous can get in 
Canada.

The Friendly Vital Organ
aka Gabor
aka Bird Jaguar, Lord of the Mayas at Yaxchilan

iFodor wrote:

Azert is, mert ahol a nep olyan nagy szazaleka
> egyszeruen "romanoknak" nevezi az erdelyi, ill. romaniai magyarokat,
> mint odahaza, ott sajnos az erdelyi magyarsag le lett irva a
> nemzettestrol.  Sajnos, en ezt igy latom innen.



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


En nem fogok szivni, a pufajkas sem sokat fog szivni, de Erldeyben
2+ millio Szekely  aztan majd fog szivni, es szivni ...... mivel M.O.'ba 
a benszulottek 70%'ka pufaikas. Ez nem arulas ez realitas.

En Szekely voltamra (pardon budos, piszkos, arulo, nacionalista, 
alattomos olah voltamra), en egy Zagoni Szekely en a Hohenzoler Mihai 
Roman Kiralyra eskuszom mert odahaza a kiss M.O.'ba  mar csak max. 20% a 
magyar. 

1100 ev utan vege a hazassagnak is. A Nemes Sekely Nemzet uj gazdat 
keres. Majd, megtanulunk Romanul es utana, a NATO kelety batyajanak, a 
Tisza lesz a hatara a Nemetekkel es a Dnyeszter az Ukrannal.   


Albu Bela
 
"Szekelyek a Roman Kiralyert"

(bocsanat a gramatica nem az en fortem 11 ev Romman iskolaztatas utan)

Forwarded message:
From:          "Onodi Bertalan " <ORION/BERT>
To:            #kutato
Date:          Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:19 CAT
Subject:       Szerzodes
Reply-to:      bert1


Sziasztok !


Nem tudom ki olvassa el ezt. Nem tudom kit erdekel. Nem tudom ki latta 
hallotta azt az elborzaszto delutant a minap, amikor a parlamentben 
megalaztak es helybenhagytak a romaniaban elo magyarokat.
Felhaborito ez a flegma hangvetel es a tortenelem semmibevetele, ahogy ez 
a kormany viseltetik veluk. A nemzetunk egyhatodat kuldik a semmibe 
eppen. Akkor, amikor minden, a masodik vilaghaborut koveto fontosabb 
szerzodest felrugjak, akkor amikor a ket nemetorszag egyesul, a csehek es 
szlovakok szetvalnak, akkor, mikor az ukranok elvalnak az oroszoktol, 
akkor mikor lehetoseg volna vegre arra, hogy megint hozzank tartozzanak a 
mieink, akkor arra bolint a magyar nep, hogy ketmillio embert otthagyjunk szep 
csondeben elfogyni ???

Az ember tur es nyel. Persze felvetodik az otlet hogy majd az EU-ba 
belepunk es az EU alapelvek szerint ugyis mindegy ki hol lakik, hiszen 
szabadok a hatarok. Csakhogy tudjatok: a mult evi EU szemeszteren egy 
EU-s szakerto nyilatkozta, hogy mig Magyarorszagnak 5-8 even belul 
realis eselye van az EU-ba csatlakozasra, addig Romania valamint a 
balkan (igy mondta) ugy 10-15 ev mulva lesz esedekes. Ez azt jelenti, 
hogy minimum 10 evig magukra lesznek hagyva es torvenyesen eliminalva 
az ott levo magyarok......

Miert irtam en ezt ide ????---Kerdezheti barki  
Kis pontok vagyunk, es kis buta doktoranduszok. Es amugy is mindegy, 
hiszen azt csinalnak amit akarnak a fejunk felett....

Kis pont vagyok. igen, kis pont. A fenebe is...
Dehat valamit tenni kene... A tuntetesre persze hogy elmegy az ember. 
De nem kene tiltakoznunk, mint "a" fiatal ertelmiseg ?
Javaslom azt, hogy irjunk egy tiltakozo iratot, es irhassa ala mindenki. 
Elektronikus uton, vagy a PhD irodaban egy ivre, es kuldjuk el 
ujsagoknak, kuldjuk el a kormanynak, es tudassuk ahol csak lehet -ha van 
- az ellenvelemenyunket !!!   

Jovo hetfon kiteszek egy tiltakozo iratot a PhD tanulmanyiba, valamint 
elkuldok ennek a kis tarsasagnak egy e-mailt, ami ugyanezen tiltakozast 
tartalmazza. Kerlek, aki olvassa kuldje el barmilyen ismerosehez azt, 
valamint ezen levelet.

Semmmilyen part vagy egyeb szervezeti erdek ne kapcsolodjon ehhez a 
tiltakozashoz es ne kapcsoljuk mi sem ilyen dolgokhoz. 
A becsuletes, epp elme tiltakozik ez ellen a felhaborito 
szerzodes ellen, es semmi mas.
Barki csatlakozhat ehhez a tiltakozashoz.
Az elektrtonikusan alairt leveleket a  -ra kuldjetek vissza.

Az osszegyujtott anyagot tobb napilapnak es a kormanynak is elkuldom.
Tegyuk meg a tolunk telhetot... tiltakozzunk !!!!!

sziasztok: bert

ps; Az ido surget...hetfoig varom a megjegyzeseiteket. es gondoljatok 
vegig...



*******************************************************
* Bertalan Onodi, PhD student                         *  
* snailmail: Bp. 1039. Hadrianusz u.7. VII.70 Hungary *
* e-mail: ,         *   
* www:http://hubi.abc.hu/~bert                        *   
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Could somebody be so kind to e mail to my address names
of some computer magazines published in Hungary? If it
is not too much of a job I would appreciate some e mails
of the publishers.

Thanks for your efforts

Harrison Forbes

From:          "Onodi Bertalan " <ORION/BERT>

>Nem tudom ki olvassa el ezt. Nem tudom kit erdekel. Nem tudom ki latta 
>hallotta azt az elborzaszto delutant a minap, amikor a parlamentben 
>megalaztak es helybenhagytak a romaniaban elo magyarokat.

Hat kedves Berci,
nagyon tiszteletremelto a felhaborodasod, de az az erzesem, hogy minden
tiltakozas mar csak falrahanyt borso lehet.  Nem csak azert, mert amikor
odahaza ezt a kormanyt szavaztatok hatalomba, akkor ezt is be kellett,
hogy kalkulaljatok.  Azert is, mert ahol a nep olyan nagy szazaleka
egyszeruen "romanoknak" nevezi az erdelyi, ill. romaniai magyarokat,
mint odahaza, ott sajnos az erdelyi magyarsag le lett irva a
nemzettestrol.  Sajnos, en ezt igy latom innen.

Pannon Jozsef

Hello Parents, Teachers and Children !

I'd like to invite you to the recently created internet resource called
"The Children's Art Gallery" at: http://redfrog.norconnect.no/~cag/

  The gallery presents works of art by children from various
cultures and age groups. Works presented in the gallery come
from such countries/cultures as:  China, Croatia, Czech Republic,
Hong Kong, Norway, Poland, Scotland, South Africa, USA and Western 
Sahara.
.... and are created by children from 3 to 14 years old.

  The gallery is designed to facilitate sharing of drawings made
by children among all of us on the internet.

  Visitors can not only view the drawings that are already 
presented in the gallery but also present their own drawings.
  If you have your drawing(s) in "gif" or "jpeg" format then
you can transfer it to the gallery directly from your
web browser ... transfered drawings are visible immediately.
Information on how to do it and where to get help when
your drawing requires scanning is available on the site.

  The collection can be viewed in user selectable exhibitions
(by child's name, age, country, year, teacher, school, project)
or within preselected exhibitions dedicated to a child, school,
pupils of a teacher ...
  Children, teachers, schools ... that present more then 5-10
drawings are invited to present themselves within their own
dedicated exhibitions. 

I invite you to use and enjoy the new facility. If you know
about others who might be interested in the project then
please, forward this invitation to them, too.

Greetings
Iwo Gajda

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In article >,  says...
>
>wally > wrote:
>>
>>Your Joejobs might be more fruitful on Blandglands; you might be better at 
>>swallowing pudding than a substantial slab of beef like me.
>
>Now you're talking, Wally!  True to form.
>Actually, you may not even realize how right on the money your comment
>is: one of my favorites is rice pudding (with tapioca close second)!  
>What da ya know?
>Joe

I'll have to head over to soc.culture.romanian where they like their beef 
well ground.