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2 SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN BY US PRISON (mind)  217 sor     (cikkei)
3 Zsuzsa Polgar Victory Party (mind)  58 sor     (cikkei)
4 Hungary family searches (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
5 Petofi s poetry (mind)  6 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Takony kormany - ket kerdes (mind)  11 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
8 Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind)  26 sor     (cikkei)
9 Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind)  43 sor     (cikkei)
10 Peter Gabriel and Martha Sebestyen? (mind)  27 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN BY US PR (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
12 Re: SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMA (mind)  4 sor     (cikkei)
13 Kerdezem... (mind)  29 sor     (cikkei)
14 Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind)  23 sor     (cikkei)
15 Re: Takony kormany - ket kerdes (mind)  27 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Takony kormany (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Elfelejtettem kozolni, hogy -barmennyire is talaloan szemleletesnek
tartom- a Horn-Peto kormanyzat fenti osszefoglalo elnevezeseert
nem engem illet a dicseret. A "Nemzet", Lovas Istvantol szarmazo-
tudositas szerint, ld.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/960325.html

a Muzeum kertben 1996 marcius 15-en letartoztatott ket fiatalnak a
transzparensen volt ez a felirat, oket illeti az elismeres:

POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY !

Egyebirant korantsem holmi "rendori tulkapas" volt a velemeny-
nyilvanitas szabadsagat (es a tuntetoket) sarba tiporni a fenti
felirat miatt, hiszen azt igen talalonak erezhette a jelen levo
Horn Gyula es Kuncze Gabor is. Azert is tartoztattak le
jelenletukben a ket fiatalt, sot meg inguket is leteptek roluk,
mivel azon pedig ez volt a felirat:

KOMMUNISTAMENTES OVEZETET !

Demokraciat pl. arrol lehet felismerni, hogy Miniszterelnok-Belugy-
miniszter mennyire toleralja a kritikat - de eppen Horn Gyula volt
az, aki beduhodott elozo este par keresetlen szon, es sajat maga
rendelte el a "bekemenyitest", amit a jelenlevo Kuncze vegre is
hajttatott!

Hogy mi a kulonbseg valodi demokratak valamint Horn Gyula es
pufajkasai tomeggyilkos-viselkedese kozott, arra jo pelda ahogy
Churchill riposztozott amikor egy hasonlo nyilvanos konfrontacioban
eles kritika erte:

"Ha maga a ferjem lenne, akkor meregpoharat tennek az ejjeli-
szekrenyere!" - uvoltott egy Churchill HALALAT kivano kritikus.
Churchill - ahelyett hogy a velemennyilvanitas szabadsagat es a kritikust
labbal tiportatta volna - eroszak helyett szellemesseggel valaszolt:

"Tudja mit? Ha maga lenne a felesegem - meginnam!" - valaszolt
Churchill.

Horn Gyulak es Peto Ivanok csak 1956 es a Taxiblokad EROSZAK-
NYELVEN tudnak beszelni. Egy ilyen kormanykoaliciora a tuntetok
altal feltalalt jelzos szerkezet:  "TAKONYKORMANY" egy rendkivul
enyhe kifejezes.

Igaz ugyan, hogy serto.

Marmint  a takonyra nezve. Az ugyanis olyan gusztustalansagnak van
elfogadva, mely fontos funkciot tolt be az organizmusban. Csak folos
mennyisegetol kell megtisztitani a szervezetet.

Hogy a takony ne legyen jogosan megsertve, hogy Horn-Petohoz
hasonlitjak, e kormanyt helyesebb lett volna uruleknek nevezni. Annak
legkisebb mennyisege sem megtartando, attol TELJES EGESZEBEN,
MINEL ELOBB MEG KELL SZABADULNI!

Bar igaz, hogy egy artatlan urulek is meg lehet sertve ha gyilkoshoz,
avoscsemetehez hasonlitjak. Horn, pufajkas es avos elftarsaival 1956-
ban "lovoldozott, mint egy orult", MAGYAR FORRADALMAROKRA.

Ezt kulturallamokban nem hasonlat, hanem BORTON illeti!
+ - SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN BY US PRISON (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Bismillahi Alrahmani Alraheem
In The Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful
> ===================================================
                               I S L A M    R E P O R T   
> ===================================================
Date: 27 March, 1996
> ===================================================
URGENT MESSAGE FROM ISLAM’S SCHOLAR
SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN FROM
THE US HIGH SECURITY PRISON IN MISSOURI

PRISON GUARDS STRIP MUSLIM BLIND SCHOLAR AND
FORCE HIM TO SUBMIT TO SEXUAL HUMILIATION  
> ===================================================
JUST IN:  FROM US HIGH SECURITY PRISON, SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI

WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THIS URGENT LETTER FROM
THE RESPECTED DR. SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN WHO IS
BEING HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT SINCE HIS
ARRIVAL AT THE SPRINGFIELD HIGH SECURITY FEDERAL
PRISON IN SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI.

PRISON OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTING THE SHEIKH TO
VARIOUS FORMS OF PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL 
TORTUREARE . THE MUSLIM SCHOLAR IS BLIND, DIABETIC 
AND SUFFERS FROM A HEART CONDITION.

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THE FOLLOWING LETTER TO YOUR
COMMUNITY WHEREVER YOU ARE. PLEASE HELP DEFEND
ISLAM’S SCHOLARS, AT LEAST BY SPREADING THE WORD.
> ===============================================
URGENT LETTER FROM SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN
FROM AN AMERICAN HIGH SECURITY PRISON

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

All praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds, and peace and blessings
be to the master of the messengers, prophet Mohammad, and blessings
and peace be upon his family, his companions and those who follow him
with perfection until the day of judgement....

The conditions in the prison are very bad and severly poor, this can be 
seen from the following things:

1. What they claim to have, as freedom of religion and freedom of 
worship,
is all false claims. I have not been allowed to pray the Friday prayers, 
or
even pray in congregation since I arrived at the prison in October 1995.

2. There is discrimination in the prison as far as treatment. If a 
prisoner
called out for the guards, they quickly respond, while I stay for hours 
knocking my cell door to get the guards’ help, but no one responds to
my pressing calls for help.

3. Hair cuts and nail clipping are not available for months, they never
 respond to my requests. I am also forced to wash my own under wear
clothes.

4. I have been put in solitary confinement, in a cell by myself, without
anyone else to look after my needs, and to organize my belongings and
stow away my things (REMEMBER HERE THE SHEIKH IS BLIND).
I have no one to talk to all day or night, and there is no one allowed to
befriend me, and no Muslim is allowed to talk to me, not even a person
who speaks Arabic (REMEMBER ALSO THE SHEIKH ONLY SPEAKS 
ARABIC). I stay like that day and night, hwat cruelty and what harshness
is more than that, La Hawla Wa La Quwata Illa Billah.

They want me to be chronically ill, and they want be to become severly
sick with lethal diseases, avenging because I am a Muslim. Are these the
human rights that they blab about and are filling the news media with
cries and noise. They want to confine us so that we are not able to
speak or raise our voices.

5. Have you heard about stripping and exposing genitals (private parts),
and taking off all the clothes and becoming as strip as you were born?
Oh, By Allah, this is happenening to me every time I receive a visitor, 
either a friend or a relative, and I have no relatives in the Americas, 
however
all Muslims here are my relatives. Every visit means I have to strip 
twice:

They order me to take off all my clothes, and I wish it stops at that, 
but the 
head of the prison guards, named Kerlin comes with another man named Day
along with several other guards, and they order me to bend forward and 
keep my thighs apart, and then they take turns as animals and monsters
to race for what? - I can not really say that, out of shame and 
bashfulness, 
but I will say it to relieve myself from the responsibility, so that the 
Muslim 
Ummah take the responsibility and the obligation entrusted to them by 
Allah, and for which they will be asked on the day of judgement -

That group of guards are racing to take turns to look inside my anus,
while I am in this bend-over position, and to them, the one who does 
the best job is that who spends the longest time looking and inspecting.

If it ended at that, it would have been easy, however the guards go even 
further (to subdue and humiliate me) by a worse action, that is when this
named Kerlin, MAY ALLAH CURSE AND DISGRACE HIM, comes up
to me and order me to move my penis and testicles left and right.
All of this is happenening to me while the guards around me are standing
looking, laughing and making fun to further humiliate the Muslim, to
subdue him and to legitamize what God had forbidden.

They have found their victim, and they have arrived at their wish, so why
not do it! They are looking for what in the anus and the genitals? Are
they looking for weapons, explosives or drugs which I may carry to my
visitor, or from the visitor to my cell? They do it twice while I 
dissolve 
in shame, and wish that the earth would swallow me before this thing
could happen.

ARE MUSLIMS ACCEPTING THIS HUMILIATION? IS THIS 
ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE WHO ARE JEALOUS FOR THE 
RELIGION AND FOR HONOR?

O  PEOPLE OF COURAGE AND BROTHERHOOD.... 
O  PEOPLE OF AID AND FAITHFULNESS....
O  PEOPLE OF SACRIFICE AND CONSOLATION

O  MEN OF ALLAH! RISE UP!
RISE UP FROM YOUR DEEP SLEEP!
RISE UP WITH YOUR LOUD STRIKING VOICES!

GO O MEN OF ALLAH
LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD EVERYWHERE
AND SAY IT, O MEN OF ALLAH, VERY STRONG
WITHOUT FEAR OR HESITATION.

RISE UP AS ONE MAN, LET JUSTICE BE AND VOID THE EVIL.
“AND INCLINE NOT TO THOSE WHO DO WRONG,
OR THE FIRE WILL TOUCH YOU..” S.11-A.113

Prisons are for Scholars 		or Criminals to sleep in
Death has surrounded my Ummah	Say Allahu Akbar and tell death to live!
Who will wake up a nation	that builds its nests on the winds
It numbed its feelings; 		shows no reaction to plots
It is lost if its Scholars		fill up the cells like sheep
Aren’t there courageous men	who fear Allah
Aren’t there strong words		to throw the evil and shrink it
Rise up as one			Do not fear loss of income

BY THE RESPECTED SCHOLAR OF ISLAM,
DR. SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN
MAY ALLAH PROTECT HIM AND SET HIM FREE
> ===============================================
IF YOU WANT AN ARABIC COPY OF THE LETTER, PLEASE
SEND US YOUR FAX NUMBER, AND WE WILL FAX IT.
> ===============================================
“FUZTU WA RABI AL-KA’BA”
After the American Jewish judge Michael Mukasey sentenced 
Dr. Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman for two life terms in prison,
the Sheikh smiled and announced in the courtroom: “Fuztu
Wa Rabi Al-Ka’ba,” which means: “By the Lord of Ka’ba, I
have won.” The Sheikh’s moral has always been high, and his
faith has never been shaken in Allah and His mercy
> ===============================================
THE AMERICAN ISLAMIC GROUP CONDEMNS IN THE 
STRONGEST SENSE OF THE WORD THE COWARDLY ACTIONS 
OF THE HIGH SECURITY FEDERAL PRISON OFFICIALS, WHICH
ARE DONE WITH COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE OF THE
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.

SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN IS BEING TORTURED FOR
ONLY BEING AN INFLUENTIAL MUSLIM, AND THESE EFFORTS 
ARE ONLY SEEN AS A STEP TO LIQUIDATING HIM AND ENDING
HIS LIFE IN THE US PRISON BEFORE HE EVEN GETS A 
CHANCE TO APPEAL HIS CASE WHICH WAS FABRICATED 
A COMBINED EFFORT OF THE US STATE DEPARTMENT, THE
FBI AND THE CIA WITH COLLABORATION OF THE EGYPTIAN
OPPRESSIVE CRIMINAL REGIME OF HOSNI MUBARAK.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
IMPORTANT .. IMPORTANT .. IMPORTANT .. IMPORTANT
.........................................................................
.............................
WE ARE TURNING TO EVERY MUSLIM WORLDWIDE TO 
HELP DEFEND SHEIKH OMAR WHO CAN NOT AFFORD TRIAL 
EXPENSES IN THE CASE OF US vs. ISLAM.

PLEASE FOEWARD THIS MESSAGE TO OTHER 
PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY
Sayidna Mohammed Salallahu Alaihi Wasalam 
said :"and that who point to the good is like the one doing it."
(Aldaalu Ala Alkhair Kafa'iluh) 

Please send what you can in defense of Islam and in defense 
of Islam Scholars. Every Muslim brother and Sister, whether in 
Malaysia or Britain, whether in US, South America, Canada or 
Egypt and Aljazirah Al-Arabia have a responsibility.

Please send your contributions to the defense committee of Sheikh Omar 
Abdel Rahman, Make checks payable to: "The American Islamic Group"
and send it to:
		The American Islamic Group
		P. O. Box 711660
		San Diego, California 92171-1660 
		USA
		Phone/Fax: (619) 268-8189

Or please send a bank transfer or a money wire to:

		Bank of America
		Account Number: 09008-14863

Wajazakum Allah Khair
We say: "Hasbuna Allah Wani'ma Al-Wakeel, 
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST. 
> ===============================================
Islam Report is published by The American Islamic Group (AIG),
A religious non-profit organization. Islam Report aims to expose 
and analyze threats against Islam and Muslims worldwide.

WE  FEAR  ONLY  ALLAH  THE  ALMIGHTY
+ - Zsuzsa Polgar Victory Party (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

ZSUZSA POLGAR VICTORY PARTY

				by Sam Sloan

On Sunday, March 24, a party was held at the Marshall Chess Club
in New York City in honor of Zsuzsa Polgar, on the occasion of
her winning the Woman's World Chess Championship.

The "by invitation only" shindig was thrown by Leon J. Haft,
President of the Club. Present were almost every notable
personality in the New York City Chess Community.

Here is a list of persons attending (or the ones that I can
remember anyway): Grandmasters William Lombardy, Anatoly Lein,
Edmar Mednis, Joel Benjamin, Michael Adams, Gregory Serper, Nick
deFirmian, John Fedorowicz, Gennady Sagalchik, Patrick Wolff,
and Ivan Sokolov, U. S. Woman's Champion Anjelina Belakovskaia,
and International Masters John Donaldson, Jay Bonin, Luis
Galego, Alexander Lesiege, and Victor Frias (I think that was
him, with long hair). Other notables included Don Schultz, Eric
Schiller, Carol Jarecki, Sunil Weeramantry, Asaka Nakamura,
Jacob Shutzman, Leon J. Haft, Steven J. Immitt, Bob Moran, Bob
Moran's girlfriend, Ron Young, Jerome Bibuld, Martha Fierro,
Taghian M. Taghian, Irina Levitina, Brian Hulse and Judy Hulse.

Zsuzsa Polgar was there too.

Zsuzsa Polgar stated she wants to challenge Deep Blue to a
match. Zsuzsa says that she thinks that she has got the computer
figured out and can beat it.

Jacob Shutzman expressed the opinion that right now, Judit
Polgar could defeat World Champion Garry Kasparov in a match.
Zsuzsa said that Jacob is crazy.

Zsuzsa said that she still has not been paid the prize money she
was supposed to receive for winning the match. She said that she
will have to bring a lawsuit in Spain if she does not get her
money. This has to do with the fact that the match organizer in
Spain "fined" Zsuzsa Polgar for not trying hard enough to win
the match. Zsuzsa only won the match by a score of 8 1/2 - 4 1/2.

It was reported that Xie Jun received a hero's welcome when she
returned to China after being defeated in her march for the
World Chess Championship by Zsuzsa Polgar. Everybody seemed
happy to hear this, because there was fear that Xie Jun might be
sent out to a rice paddy somewhere, or even worse, for losing
the match.

Don Schultz, a candidate for USCF President, told Zsuzsa Polgar,
"I was so happy to hear that you won." Don Schultz was one of
those who voted to give every woman chess player in the world,
except for Zsuzsa Polgar, 100 free rating points.

When asked about a report in the current issue of Inside Chess
that Zsuzsa Polgar wants to replicate her father's psychological
experiment by having three babies, Zsuzsa said, "Let's
concentrate on this one first."
+ - Hungary family searches (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Anyone interested in locating their family in Hungary, send me private
E-mail at: 
  And I will send you instructions and our form for conducting a search.
+ - Petofi s poetry (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Does anyone know of an area on the internet where I might find any of
Petofi's poetry? Any translations of them somewhere as well?
Please post any info to this group.
Thanks for any help.

OD
+ - Re: Takony kormany - ket kerdes (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,  wrote:
[snip]
>POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
>NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY !

1. Mi koze ennek a feliratnak marcius 15 unnepehez?
2. Mikor irtott ez a kormany nepet?


Szaszvari Peter
(http://iap11.ethz.ch/users/szp/szp.htm)
+ - Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, Tibor Odor  > wrote:
>bolsevikoknak vagy liberalbolsevikoknak nevezzuk oket. Bar sok ember

Gyerekek! Mi az a liberalbolsevik? Mar tobb eve hallom, de soha nem birtam 
kitalalni, kire es mire celoz. Egyaltalan, van ertelme a szonak?

Zavartan,

Gabor
+ - Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
 (Gabor Barsai) wrote:

> In article >, Tibor Odor  >
wrote:
> >bolsevikoknak vagy liberalbolsevikoknak nevezzuk oket. Bar sok ember
> 
> Gyerekek! Mi az a liberalbolsevik? Mar tobb eve hallom, de soha nem birtam 
> kitalalni, kire es mire celoz. Egyaltalan, van ertelme a szonak?

hat en se tudom. megkerdaztem a gyereketet, sot megkerdaztem a neneiket
meg a bacsikat is. kerdeztem, "gyerekek (es a nenik meg a bacsik), mit
jelent az hogy liberalbolsevik??? mert tudom hogy mit jelent az hogy
liberal, meg tudom hogy mit jelent az hogy bolsevik, de a
liberalbolseviktol csak forog a fejem." es szomoruan valszoltak a gyerekek
(es a nenik meg a bacsik) hogy "ja. nekunk is"

"tudjatok mit?" szoltam ekkor a (kulonbozo atlagkoru) nephez, " menjunk
inkabb a moziba, van egy jo film egy beszelo cocarol, egesz kulturalt.
pulikutya akar lenni."

ef

-- 
NWHQ
http://www.knosso.com/NWHQ/
+ - Re: Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, Tibor Odor  > wrote:
|  irja:
| (Tue Mar 26 04:49:41 EST 1996 FORUM #1941):
| >> Vegulis mi volt annak a transzparensnek a szovege, 
| >> ami 15000 ft-ba kerult a lengetoknek ?
| 
| > Az volt a transzparensre irva, hogy fasiszta a kormany. 
| 
| Nem egeszen. A transzparensen ez allt:
|  
|                POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
|                   NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY !
| 
| Mellesleg, p.kerekes-nek is megvan a maga igazsaga. Ez egy voros-fasiszta
| kormany. De hogy a fogalmakat ne keverjuk, eleg ha kommunistaknak,
| bolsevikoknak vagy liberalbolsevikoknak nevezzuk oket. 

Szerinted mit jelent az hogy bolsevik kommunista vagy
liberalibolsevik?
Attol tartok komoly fogalomzavarban szenvedsz.

Bar sok ember
| csak a fasisztara harap. Ezert az O felvilagositasuk celjabol megtenne
| a fasiszta is.

EZen az alapon hivhatnank oket hungaristanak is, esetlek
szikh terroristaak is. Persze ez a hozzaallas a
liberalbolsevik jelozt is megmagyarazza.. barkit aki nem
tetszik nevezzunk valaminek ami hangzatos - fuggetlenul
attol hogy van e a dolognak valosagalapja. Akkor ugye nem
lenne baj ha mostantol rolad is azt irnak hogy alkoholista
amokfuto tomeggyilkos vagy? Tudod van aki csak erre harap es
tajekoztatni azt muszaj.
 
| Mindenesetre en is kommunista mentes ovezetet szeretnek Magyarorszagbol, ugy
| mint az altalam nem tul kedveltt anarchista ifjak, akik meglengettek ezt
| az igen gusztusos szoveget. Ugylatszik, van meg mi osszekot bennunket. :-)

Erdekes, eddig senki nem beszelt arrol hogy a tuntetok
Anarchistak lettek volna. Pellioinsz gyakran vagta hozzam
hogy en kommunista vagyok mert kommunistakat vedek tehat
akkor Pellionisz sajat definicioja alapjan nem csak
hazaarulo de meg anarchista is... Kezd osszeallni a kep.
+ - Peter Gabriel and Martha Sebestyen? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Article brought to you from the alt.music.peter-gabriel newsgroup.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

	Last night I attended a concert with the Hungarian group Muzikas 
(I hope I spelled that right) and the singer Marta Sebestyen, who 
actually is getting a higher billing than the group is these days.  In 
several of the promo articles before the show and also in the program, it 
mentioned that she has collaborated with several famous people, among 
them Peter Gabriel.

	Now, I consider that my collection of Peter Gabriel is pretty 
darn complete (ok, so I don't have "Lovetown" from the Philadelphia 
soundtrack - so sue me), but I can't for the life of me think of where 
Marta has worked with Gabriel.  The closest I can come is the Musikas 
track on the original WOMAD album that came out in 1980.  Is there 
something I've missed?  Any clues, anyone?

	thanks in advance for any tips.

John Lorch					
International Student Advisor			phone 410-455-2624
International Education Services, University of Maryland Baltimore County

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
+ - Re: SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMAN BY US PR (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I will send that terrorist who killed several innocent civilians
absolutely NOTHING !!!!!!!!. That beast and the ones like him can complain
all they want, the fact remain that he is still alive and he is still well
enough to write letters . Let me add that I do not believe his bullshit
story, all the convicts claim that they are being abused. The abused are
the families of the good people he helped bomb, and if life for him is
being a little difficult right now, well tough shit !! He should have
thought about it before terrorizing and maiming innocent civilians.
Lastly, that letter was probably composed by terrorist supporters like him
to collect money sent by good Muslims in order to increase their terrorist
activities worldwide and in the US in particular. Please, should you have
enough money to spare, send them to the families of the innocent civilians
who were slaughtered by the sheikh, it will send a message to those
bastards behind the phony letter .
+ - Re: SEXUAL ASSAULT ON SHEIKH OMAR ABDEL RAHMA (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Nicely said.
Hoggar91

Like Candide, still looking for the ultimate good!
+ - Kerdezem... (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Szaszvari Peter irja:

>POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
>NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY!

>1. Mi koze ennek a feliratnak marcius 15 unnepehez?
>2. Mikor irtott ez a kormany nepet?


Az elso kerdest meg kellene elozze egy sokkal fontosabb es igazabb:
Mi koze ennek a kormanynak marcius 15-e unnepehez?

Ugyanis a ma hatalmon (kormanyon) levo elvtarsak tiltottak evtizedeken at
marcius 15-e megunnepleset - nem kis rendori terrorral fuszerezve.

A masodik kerdesre nemcsak az elmult kozel 50 ev tortenelme, de a napi hirek
is folyamatosan valaszt adnak. Az ENSZ nevu sohivatal nepirtast meghatarozo
okmanyai, egyezmenyei, stb. nem csak a gepfegyveres vagy tankos lovoldozest
tartja annak - bar mintha 1956-ban ilyesmi is elofordult volna, s az akkori
"sajnalatos esemenyekben" mintha tobb mai MSZ(M)P-s elvtars is reszt vett
volna, elukon a mai miniszterelnokkel, aki maga is bevallotta, hogy nem a
szocializmust eltorolni igyekvo magyar nem oldalan allt akkoriban (sem).

De a legegyszerubb valasz a 6 millio magzatgyilkossag (beceneven: abortusz),
amelyet inkabb elosegiteni igyekeztek es igyekeznek ma is, mint tiltani,
vagy olyan helyzetet teremteni az orszagban, hogy a gyermek - a nemzet
JOVOJE -- vallalhato legyen!

J.V.
+ - Marc. 15.-ei transzparens (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 irja:
(Tue Mar 26 04:49:41 EST 1996 FORUM #1941):
>> Vegulis mi volt annak a transzparensnek a szovege, 
>> ami 15000 ft-ba kerult a lengetoknek ?

> Az volt a transzparensre irva, hogy fasiszta a kormany. 

Nem egeszen. A transzparensen ez allt:
 
               POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
                  NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY !

Mellesleg, p.kerekes-nek is megvan a maga igazsaga. Ez egy voros-fasiszta
kormany. De hogy a fogalmakat ne keverjuk, eleg ha kommunistaknak,
bolsevikoknak vagy liberalbolsevikoknak nevezzuk oket. Bar sok ember
csak a fasisztara harap. Ezert az O felvilagositasuk celjabol megtenne
a fasiszta is.

Mindenesetre en is kommunista mentes ovezetet szeretnek Magyarorszagbol, ugy
mint az altalam nem tul kedveltt anarchista ifjak, akik meglengettek ezt
az igen gusztusos szoveget. Ugylatszik, van meg mi osszekot bennunket. :-)

Odor Tibor
+ - Re: Takony kormany - ket kerdes (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 (Peter Szaszvari) irja:

>In article >,  wrote:
>[snip]
>>POL POT APATOK IS BUSZKE RATOK
>>NEPIRTO, TAKONY KORMANY !
>
>1. Mi koze ennek a feliratnak marcius 15 unnepehez?
>2. Mikor irtott ez a kormany nepet?
>
>
>Szaszvari Peter
>(http://iap11.ethz.ch/users/szp/szp.htm)

1. Ott volt a cimzettek jo resze, akik elolvashattak volna, ha a rendorseg
nem olyan eber, mint volt.
2. Kedves Peter, aki ismeri a kormany tavaly marc. 12-en elinditott,
tragikus szocialpolitikai kovetkezmenyekkel jaro intezkezeseit, az elobb
elgondolkodik a tavlati hatasokon, es utana nem kerdez Zurichbol ilyeneket.

+1. (mielott valaki szegeny  baratunkat ezzel vadolna'): a
nagybetus idezetet nem o irta, bar bizonyara szivesen vallalja.




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